New Soooper High Speed Train Link

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Past_it
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Is it me?

I'm amazed we are going to spend £32 Billion on a new train system when we can't afford to maintain the one we have, and you have to take out a mortgage to buy a ticket.

And what difference would 40minutes make on a journey, just enough time to have another beer.

I must be missing something!

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So Remind me

What party was in power when the Beeching cuts took place Laughing

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Who will buid the rolling stock?

 

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Dustydog wrote:

Who will buid the rolling stock?

 

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Perhaps it has only been agreed so that the govt can give the contract to Bombardier and extract itself from the mess it created when they gave the contract to Germany.

 

I bet all the tunnel bits that don't destroy the countryside will be in Tory constituencies as well.

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The reduction in journey time isn't real - they're talking about reducing Birmingham-London from 1:24 down to 0:49 - it's farce because the journey time was 1:15 in the 1960s when that line was first electrified.

And what's the point of saving 26 minutes when it'll still take forever to get where you want within Birmingham and London - surely it's high speed local travel that everyone needs?

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I don't think the journey time be better, someone will nick the signal cables for scrap.

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Does anyone know where the evidence for the 'proven business case' is that the government is claiming has been made? 

 

We are in the age when it is supposed that the super information highway should reduce the need to physidally travel from city to city for business purposes. As others have said shaving 20 to 40 minutes of a journey time between Brum to London, who does that honestly help? 

If we lack capacity on the current lines, then ther are ways they can increase capacity without laying new lines, for example longer or even tandem trains. or use the funds to introduce double decker trains on the exsisting lines between the major cities.

HST2 is in my view an unecessary white elephant.

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Around £1bn per minute saved - that does seem a little obscene doesn't it??

 

I can understand high speed trains in France which is four times larger than the UK so linking major cities like that brings a good benefit, but Birmingham to London? Really? In the States that would still be considered the suburb of London! Absolute utter wasteful madness.

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And just watch the £32billion double or treble before its finished.

It's better in a Royale!

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Perhaps we should be thinking of an E petition, to show our disgust at such blatant waste. I wonder how many of our 60,000,000 will ever travel from London to Birmingham?

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Gabsgrandad wrote:

Perhaps we should be thinking of an E petition, to show our disgust at such blatant waste. I wonder how many of our 60,000,000 will ever travel from London to Birmingham?

Plenty of HS2 e-petitions Laughing do you want to sign one or more ? Wink

 

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